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George Washington versus Bill O'Reilly

"There's a very secret plan ... to diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A."
So says, Bill O'Reilly. I hate to say it, but Bill is right. And that plot was started by George, (not Soros)

"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."
George Washington

So 210+ years later and the forces of Secularism still haven't destroyed Christianity and its influence here in America. Makes me wonder if the original George W had it all wrong; and the separating Church and State actually works to protect both rather than eliminate the latter. The other possibility is that the wall between Church and State was never meant to destroy Christianity. Perhaps Secularists are motivated by some other goal totally unrelated to any alleged hatred of religion. Perhaps, motivated by a healthy distrust of government; they wish to limit its influence in this critical area of faith and other matters of conscience. One would think that limiting Government intervention in those matters would be an area of common ground between Liberals and Conservatives rather than such a divisive fault line.



Re: George Washington versus Bill O'Reilly

"the separating Church and State actually works to protect both rather than eliminate the latter." Is your faith so weak that you really believe what you wrote? This entire fake "War on Christmas" is Fox News attempting to divert the attention of the sheeple of America away from true wars: The War in Iraq and the War on Terror. Too much attention on the Iraq War allows the public to see how the right wing regressives have landed us in a war that promises to drain us morally and financially. I still am baffled that America hasn't questioned the Patriotism of a President who patrolled the skies of Texas during the Vietnam War and a Vice-President who used five deferments and "had other things to do." What a shameful group of chickenhawks running our country.

Re: George Washington versus Bill O'Reilly

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.

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